I think it is only right to look at Adam and Eve’s actions as we would childrens’.  Some will simply say “it was impossible for them to sin, so they did not sin.”  Others could maybe argue that while they were not guilty, what they did was wrong.  Certainly many have faulted them and Eve in particular with unpardonable fault, responsible for every woe that has befallen mankind.

I have struggled with the declaration made by one of the prophets that Eve made a wise choice.  How could she have made a wise choice when her eyes were not yet opened, when she did not know good and evil and therefore did not have agency?

If it were God’s will that the fruit be eaten when and by whom it was, would it be just for him to curse Lucifer for it?  Or did he curse Lucifer because he was previously rebellious, and Lucifer’s intent was evil, even though it was all part of God’s plan?

Was Eve predestined to accept the fruit, as she did not possess agency?

I actually don’t really like the verbiage of  “God’s plan”.  If is frequently used as though everything that is happening to us is feeding into this grand plan.  Maybe it is a way we need to think when we are going through stuff, but I don’t like it.  Certainly there is the plan of salvation, but that is a plan more on the level of a process.

Why don’t I like the idea of “God’s plan?”  I guess it’s a resistance to the idea that every bad thing that has happened to me had a reason.


  1. Jeej writes: Sorry I haven’t thought of anything to respond to the last third of this post (or so) but as to the first two-thirds or so about Mother Eve-
    I don’t think of Adam and Eve’s state (or ‘estate?’) in the Garden of Eden as a state precisely like the mindset of a child, although they certainly were as innocent as children are. OK, admittedly, the next few sentences are ‘gospel speculation’ (Until the end of the paragraph, so you can tell when I really take stock in what I’m telling you)… I think of children as growing into their capacities physically, with a veil of forgetfulness so that their glorious spirit that comes from the celestial worlds can be (hopefully) brought into a perfect union (if that is the right word, because I know the spirit is inside the body) with the mortal tabernacle. Otherwise if the spirit from Heaven were brought to an infant body with no veil of forgetfulness- there would be- problems. I’ll let the reader imagine and try to explain later if I can think of a good way. Anyway, Adam and Eve were, as far as I can tell (again speculation on my part, but it may be true) were in a sort of intermediary state- they had had the veil placed over their minds, but they were still innocent and so were not cut off from the power of God. And their bodies were not infant bodies, at least at the time the fruit was eaten.

    But really, I would assert (although I don’t have a list of quotations to prove it) that all the prophets who ever talked about Eve, ancient and modern, when their judgment on her decision is balanced with everything they said about it, they come out praising mother Eve, and none of them really blames her. And she did have agency when she made the choice, otherwise she could not have made it. John A Widstoe, an apostle of the latter-days, said in Evidences and Reconciliations: “It is a thrilling thought that Adam and Eve were not coerced to begin God’s work on earth. They chose to do so, by the exercise of their free agency.”

  2. Eve’s choice was ‘wise’ in the sense that she accepted the necessity of sacrificing one desired thing (life in the Garden of Eden) for a better and more enduring thing (knowledge of good and evil). It is true that she made that choice in pretty complete ignorance of exactly what the larger implications for her personally would be, but that doesn’t change the fact that she made a choice and accepted the consequences.

    That is the essence of wisdom, to understand and accept that choices have consequences. Unwise choices are not merely wrong (as Eve’s choice could be called), they are made without heed to the consequences.

    As for God’s plan, I’ve always felt it was a little unfair. I had a much better plan. It was simple and perfect. Basically, Christ would go to Heaven, everyone else would be damned. The End.

    But did anyone support my plan? Nooooo!

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